Quotes, Short and Interesting

Reason - 2022 Mar

So long as reason remains faithful and faith remains reasonable, both reason and faith should be held in high regard and encouraged to cooperate. - Holden and Haun note

Holden, Joseph M, and Christopher T Haun. “How Do We Understand the Relationship Between Faith and Reason.” The Comprehensive Guide to Science and Faith, Harvest House Publishers, Eugene, OR, 2021, p. 33.


Materialism - 2022 Jan

Materialism is a weak flame that is blown out by the breath of mature thinking. - Martin Luther King Jr. note

King, Martin Luther, strength to love, Fortress Press, 2010

Materialism is neither a deduction of logic or a fact of experience; it is a metaphysical prejudice. It cannot be justified from first premises. - David Bentley note



People are not relativistic about medicine, science and technology. [but] They are relativistic about ethics and religion. That is not post-modernism; that’s modernism. - William Lane Craig note

Apologetics and the Next Generation 6:30


Modernism is all relativistic about "truth". Therefore, this point is surprising because as a society we don't have a consistent view of our world. In some cases (ethics and religion) we are squishy about things, but in others (medicine, science and technology) we act as if truth is absolute.

The difference is that for the latter there often is testable evidence repeatable by anybody, so we think scientifically about it. However for ethics and religion we act as if it is non-testable, in the realm of opinion.

I think that ethics and religion is testable. However, in these areas people often want what they want such that they don't care about evidence.


Consciousness - 2021 Dec

My definition of consciousness is intentionality, the capacity to be about some thing. - Michael Egnor note

This capacity includes qualia and emotions.

Note that in contrast a rock is non-living and is never about something.

Mark Solms & Michael Egnor Discuss Materialism and Neuroscience 40:00

Consciousness is deeply related to our unique human ability to tell and understand stories. - Darren Twa note

From an in-person conversation.


Scientific Endeavor

I take the classic philosopher’s definition of science which is: the systematic study of natural effects according to their causes.

I think that God is the ultimate cause of nature and the ultimate cause of us. So I think that understanding God and understanding the spiritual aspects of our soul is a scientific endeavor. I think if we leave that aspect out, our science is incomplete. - Michael Egnor note


Church and Jesus

The institutional church and Jesus are always related but they’re not the same exact thing. - Audrey Assad note



Science does not need humans to share a common ancestor with monkeys - materialism does. note


Evil and Good - 2021 Nov

We Christians sometimes talk about the problem of evil. ("If there is a good God why is the world such a mess?") But actually for the atheist there is the problem of good. If the world is random and chance and meaningless, why do we all instinctively call some aspects of it good? - NT Wright   note

The gates of hell are locked from the inside. - C.S. Lewis


Thinking About Thinking

Any theory that invalidates thinking cannot be true because you reach it by thinking. - C.S. Lewis   note

This context was a talk by John Lennox:

"What do you do science with? You do it with your mind. Evolution suggests that the mind is the end product of a mindless thoughtless randomly-driven process. If that is the case, why should we trust our mind for doing science? Why should we believe that our mind is rational enough to be able to do science?

"If our computers were the result of a random chance-driven process, we would not trust them for anything. For the same reason any materialistic explanation for our mind means that we can’t trust it for science or for truth."



God is the explanation for why there are scientific explanations. - John Lennox

My biggest argument for thinking that human beings are special is that God became one. - John Lennox


Science Denial

Ignoring the evidence from the fossil record that points to intelligent design is a kind of science denial. - Gunter Bechley   note


"In my view the fossil evidence clearly points to intelligent design because the observed changes happened much too quickly to be explained by an unguided naturalistic process. They have to be explained with an Intelligent agent.

"For me personally a lightbulb went on when I discovered that this is not based on an argument from ignorance, not based on a kind of god-of-the-gaps argument, but is based on a rational inference to the best explanation. We know that only intelligent causes can cause this effect [sudden infusions of specified complex information]. We look at the evidence and see that this evidence clearly points to this cause.

"So, ignoring the evidence from the fossil record that points to intelligent design is a kind of science denial."

Evolution News (at 33:30)


Living Things Try

Thomas Aquinas, following Aristotle, defined living things as things that strive for their own perfection. This distinguishes living things from non-living things because a rock does not wake up and try to be a better rock. Whereas, living things to degrees of success try to make themselves better examples of what they are. So the information in living things is directed to ends, but you don’t see this in non-living things. - Michael Egnor   note

Context: There is information in living things that is different than what is seen in naturally produced things, such as rocks.

The Mind Matters podcast interview of Robert Marks by Michael Egnor


Arguments - 2021 Oct

Rational arguments don’t create belief, but the lack of them destroys conviction. - C.S. Lewis


A perceptive observation - 2021 Aug

The test of whether you love God is whether you love your neighbor. -Jay Richards   note

ID the Future podcast (at 4:10): Jay references the greatest commandments as given by Jesus (in Matthew‬ ‭22:35-40‬).


Culture - 2021 Sept

Christianity is the operating system of our social structures. - Jordan B Peterson


Kinds of Knowing - 2021 Aug

Participatory knowing gives you a field of affordances. Perspectival knowing makes certain affordances salient to you perspectively, giving you a situational awareness. The situational awareness tells you which skills from your procedural knowing you should bring to bear. Once those skills are in action, you are getting the right kind of causal interaction with the world for your propositional evidence. - John VerVaeke   note


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